you're john boehner. how do you play your hand? >> i would negotiate. i've always been a big believer that you never give up. this is a lot of political stuff that's going on. every subject, everything is politicized and then there is the picker -- bickering going on and the finger pointing, but you got to always make an effort to bring people together and solve this problem. i think if i were him, i would work with the white house. >> brian: you think it's possible? you know it's not going well. >> i know. you can not give up because look, for the last four years, nothing got done in america. there is a lot of issues that need to be addressed. immigration reform, infrastructure, building high speed rail, getting rid of the deficit. education. we have to look at very carefully how do we stay competitive internationally with manufacturing and all this stuff? so there is a lot of issues that need to be addressed. we can't just freeze and say, it's hard to negotiate with the white house. everything is hard. when i sat there in sacramento, every single thin